Saturday, September 12, 2009

Off Shoring Jobs

FROM JAUN in response to yesterday's post: "WTF? Where do you get the idea that it's solely 'Republicans' pushing to off shore jobs? Everyone is involved, from big industry to the little consumer, regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, or political affiliation. You must have heard that crap from the mainstream media and really believe the shit they tell you. Its true that unemployment begets more unemployment in the current US economy, precisely because it's a service based industry that values spending money rather than saving and manufacturing, so you are inevitably outsourcing all jobs by trying to support and prop up the current system. Drawing unfounded conclusions unsupported by fundamental economic principles, and ignoring the history of the US govt's economic policies can only lead superficial 'solutions'."

Praire2 response: Let's start with this; "You must have heard that crap from the mainstream media and really believe the shit they tell you." You have got to be kidding Jaun, like the Republican owned and controlled media will ever blame Republicans for anything. They pretend it's all "natural" market forces, just as when you say "Everyone is involved, from big industry to the little consumer, regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, or political affiliation." --- Policy is not set by the little guy.

Economic policy has been driven for the last 40 years by right wing think tanks funded by guess who, Republicans. There are "Democrats" from the DLC that push the same crap but they are paid by guess who, Republican corporations. There are also people who have heard this crap all their life and don't know anything else. I can remember when the average Republican had the same views on this as I do but they have all either died, drank the koolaid or have become Democrats, independents and libertarians. Remember Ross Perot? A bit crazy but absolutely right when he said, "You can't have an economy by giving each other haircuts". He left the Republican Party.

You can argue that the people pulling the strings are apolitical. They have bought about a third of Democrats but they own a 100% of Republicans.

You are close but no cigar with this Jaun: "Its true that unemployment begets more unemployment in the current US economy, precisely because it's a service based industry that values spending money rather than saving and manufacturing, so you are inevitably outsourcing all jobs by trying to support and prop up the current system." --- It is imports that masks how bad things really are but outsourcing more jobs does not prop up the system, as the trade deficit grows it only hastens the end. Savings is not as important in itself but rather an indicator of the condition of workers. Debt has become a substitute for adequate wages. Instead of paying according to productivity they convince people to create debt to use up the extra production otherwise the economy would have collapsed twenty years ago.

In short I blame the "Republicans" because they started the collapse with the "Reagan revolution" and it doesn't matter the some Democrats have bought in (Clinton did especially). The "Republicans" have been behind every bank panic and bad government policy back to the 1880's when the railroad tycoons took over the party.

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